Archive for Freesteam For collectors and enthusiasts of all steam engines          Freesteam Forum Index -> Toy Steam Gallery and Collections silverfoxsteam The BIg Boy's arrived! My new (alledgedly 80 year old) Marklin arrived today all the way from Switzerland. It's certainly a big fella. The base is a foot square, the whistle stands 7" above the base and the top of the chimney is 14"! The seller made a video some time ago on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFH6Dj1xaTo In it he says that the flywheel and chimney are not original and are actually from Bing Engines. OK, I think they look quite good but it'd be interesting to hear others' opinions please. There are holes between the engine and firebox which held parts no longer there - a guvenor maybe? Again any thoughts or guesses would be appreciated. There's a lot of paint loss in the centre section of the base. The blue edging and yellow pinstripe could be reinstated at some stage but the 'speckled' effect will be a tricky one! The boiler's in nice condition, all three wooden handles are good. I'll try and steam her this weekend and post a video of my own. Might even let her run the new Wilesco workshop! PS for Nick - it has got a 6 on the firebox door, is the model number correct (4097) and what do you think about the chimney and flywheel? wart holes Seen engine very much like yours the 4 hole I think are for a dynamo wart Dynamo wart 3 holes Dont know what the white pipe is from boiler to base plate but could exsplain the other 3 holes in base plate Mamod Collector Nice one Steve, it certainly is a big lump   I like the boiler drain tap   wart marklin The pictures I uploaded are of a Marklin 4095 the 4097 looks very much the same and the white tube in picture is a lamp powerd by dynamo .think you have been misinformed about the date of model think it could be as late as 60s steamyjim A very nice engine! I agree with Wart; it should have a dynamo and a lamp When did Marklin finish production of toy steam engines, excluding the new reproduction? wart Think marklin droped out of making steam engines in the 70s Nick The flywheel is not original, and it does look like ones I have seen on Bings. They all have the 4 holes drilled for the dynamo, but there are very few that actually have one. If there was one on there, the price would have been much higher! Here's what the burner & chimney look like off mine: And my engine, identical, but newer (The picture was taken before I found the correct chimney): Nick Re: marklin wart wrote: Think you have been misinformed about the date of model think it could be as late as 60s I am also having second thoughts about the date. Mine is the newer version (from the '50's) with a multi-color base, cyan colored flywheel, and plastic handles. Cyan flywheel = non-blued boiler. What you need to do is see if there are any traces of bluing on the boiler, because only Marklins of the "late period" had non-blued boilers. Nick Re: marklin wart wrote: The pictures I uploaded are of a Marklin 4095 the 4097 looks very much the same and the white tube in picture is a lamp powerd by dynamo The engine in your pictures is the smaller version, with a 5cm boiler. I had one, but sold it and it brought a low $70 on ebay. Spokesmann Great new acquisiiton Stephen - what are you plans for it? I must say I do like the look of these big old German machines, technically interesting and very colourful! silverfoxsteam Nick wrote: They all have the 4 holes drilled for the dynamo, but there are very few that actually have one. Did they all have the holes for the lamp Nick? silverfoxsteam Re: marklin wart wrote: The pictures I uploaded are of a Marklin 4095 the 4097 looks very much the same and the white tube in picture is a lamp powerd by dynamo .think you have been misinformed about the date of model think it could be as late as 60s Thanks for going to all that trouble Wart, much appreciated. You're clearly right about the dynamo and lamp. Nick say that they were all drilled for the dynamo but hasn't mentioned the lamp fixing holes, although you'll see that I've queried that with him. silverfoxsteam Spokesmann wrote: Great new acquisiiton Stephen - what are you plans for it? I must say I do like the look of these big old German machines, technically interesting and very colourful! Plans - get it working and show it off! I'm not going to rush into any restoration other than doing whatever's needed to make sure it runs well. Cosmetic stuff can wait until I'm sure of it's need and my ability to blend it in an acceptable way! silverfoxsteam Re: marklin wart wrote: Think you have been misinformed about the date of model think it could be as late as 60s I'm not accepting the date claimed for it either. The lack of plastic handles could be an indicator of an 'earlier' model although there's no proof that they're original. Clearly some recent owner has taken enough care to replace the flywheel and source a chimney, maybe they replaced the handles. The replacement flywheel's interesting too. Why was it done? Well my other Marklin's flywheel was so badly metal fatigued that I had to replace it (with a TE1a front wheel!). The old flywheel looks ok in the photo but it's now actually fallen apart! These problems were caused, as I understand, by the use of the poor quality metal, directly after the two world wars. So if the flywheel was replaced beause of the original falling to bits, that has a bearing on the date. I'll check out for 'blueing' as Nick's suggested, as that's also an indicator. wart marklin Been thinking about how you could redo the white specled paint on the Marklin .When learnig how to use air brush i useto get paint spatter like that because of to thick paint and low pressure. Mix paint up little thicker than normal ( most paint are thined down to something like single cream ) put mixed paint in air brush but spray at much lower pressure . Spokesmann Splatter caps for airbrushes were/are available. silverfoxsteam Never used an airbrush but that's clearly the way the original finish was applied. I think a lot of experimentation will be required before taking the plunge, oh as well as getting the kit. Of course I could try 'subbing' it out to someone with the experience.....!!!!         Nick silverfoxsteam wrote: Nick wrote: They all have the 4 holes drilled for the dynamo, but there are very few that actually have one. Did they all have the holes for the lamp Nick? No Nick Re: marklin silverfoxsteam wrote: Clearly some recent owner has taken enough care to replace the flywheel and source a chimney, maybe they replaced the handles. The replacement flywheel's interesting too. Why was it done? Well my other Marklin's flywheel was so badly metal fatigued that I had to replace it (with a TE1a front wheel!).the photo but it's now actually fallen apart! These problems were caused, as I understand, by the use of the poor quality metal, directly after the two world wars. So if the flywheel was replaced beause of the original falling to bits, that has a bearing on the date. The correct flywheel for this engine, should match your other one (same pin-striping), just a different color. I had the same problem. John Chapman Super addition to the collection Stephen          Freesteam Forum Index -> Toy Steam Gallery and Collections Page 1 of 1