JJ
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TE1a rebuild.My elderley TE1a is pretty leaky, weak and generally lacking in all departments  . I'm considering biting the bullet and going for a rebuild over the next few weeks or so. If I do this, I shall be counting on you Guys for advice and tips  .
Tidying the shed comes first 
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Spokesmann
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Keep us posted Jon. Need any tips on tidying the shed.... 
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silverfoxsteam
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Watch out for spiders - ugh!
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Mamod Collector
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Post some before and after shots of your shed JJ 
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JJ
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | Keep us posted Jon. Need any tips on tidying the shed.... |
I've had plenty of tips on this subject from the apron clad stormtrooperette 
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Spokesmann
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| JJ wrote: | | Spokesmann wrote: | | Keep us posted Jon. Need any tips on tidying the shed.... |
I've had plenty of tips on this subject from the apron clad stormtrooperette |
Jon that's where you gotta put your foot down, Zahra, my other half. is not allowed into my workshop, without a prior invite and even then only under supervision!
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JJ
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | JJ wrote: | | Spokesmann wrote: | | Keep us posted Jon. Need any tips on tidying the shed.... |
I've had plenty of tips on this subject from the apron clad stormtrooperette |
Jon that's where you gotta put your foot down, Zahra, my other half. is not allowed into my workshop, without a prior invite and even then only under supervision! |
I tried a similar approach once but things got too scary for me and I bottled it !!!
I have to be careful because she can read my thoughts as well 
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Spokesmann
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That is scary. I keep things on a 'need to know' basis!
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JJ
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | That is scary. I keep things on a 'need to know' basis! |
Seriously though, Chris is a good 'un and I wouldn't be without her. She's not a bad best mate either.
Once I've got my bench sorted I will crack on with dismantling her (The TE not The Ayathollah!!!!!!!!) and I shall then take my first tentative steps on this project.
I realise that to some members this is basic stuff and a breeze maybe. However to me it's ambitious and something I think needs to be done firstly to improve the old girl (again the TE!!!) and secondly to aid my understanding of engines a little further.
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wart
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My other half keeps tidying up my workshop cant find anything after
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silverfoxsteam
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| wart wrote: | | My other half keeps tidying up my workshop cant find anything after |
Send her round, my workspace could do with a tidy up!
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Spokesmann
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Look forward to your posts Jon.
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JJ
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Eventually got round to the tidy up, so now I have somewhere to hide in peace
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Spokesmann
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Nice, everything to hand...
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steamyjim
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I'd love a workshop as tidy as that!
To be honest, i'd love my bedroom to be as tidy as that
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Mamod Collector
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Nice workshop JJ, if its to clean though your missis might start and pay a visit
So dont make it too tidy 
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silverfoxsteam
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All set to go then Jon?
(Are your TE's strakes the right way round?)
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JJ
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OK Chaps stoopid kweschun number 1.
I want to seperate the boiler from the smokestack and the firebox, I assume that I have four rivets at the front around the boiler band and the upper two at the rear of the firebox to drill out. Would I be correct in thinking that this will release the boiler ?
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JJ
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| silverfoxsteam wrote: | All set to go then Jon?
(Are your TE's strakes the right way round?) |
It may well float, who knows !!!!
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steamyjim
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| JJ wrote: | OK Chaps stoopid kweschun number 1.
I want to seperate the boiler from the smokestack and the firebox, I assume that I have four rivets at the front around the boiler band and the upper two at the rear of the firebox to drill out. Would I be correct in thinking that this will release the boiler ?
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Yup, you are right, however you will also need to remove the flywheel and crankshaft assembly to get to the 2 rivets holding the engine frame to the firebox aswell.
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Spokesmann
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The pop rivets can be drilled out Jon, they are easy to replace (you'll need a pop rivet gun).
The boiler is pop rivetted tot he firebox back wasll using copper rivets - drill these out too, the ends will fall into the boiler. The steam pipe from the boiler will need to be removed by desodlering or remove crankshaft and flywheel/crank and drill out the pop rivets securing the engine frame to the top of the firebox housing. Its a bit easier on N&B versions . . .
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JJ
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Ah, forgot about the two on top of the firebox.
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Spokesmann
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| JJ wrote: | | Ah, forgot about the two on top of the firebox. |
Yes thos need to come off as the pipe work will still be attached to the boiler at the steam inlet pipe, the chimney ones as you know are just a push fit. Thats the trickiest operation really.
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silverfoxsteam
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Good luck Jon - take some pics of the process won't you!
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JJ
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Ok, I've made a start on the job today. I've ordered a new piston assembly and copper rivets (to accomodate the two on the rear of the fire box). Before I took the engine apart I took the liberty of cleaning the port and slide plate with a fine piece of wet and dry and a flat block whilst it was all pretty well rigid.
The rivets cored out nicely with the aid of a 3mm drill
And this the state of play at the moment....................
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JJ
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Had a couple of hours at it today, I must say that "Wilkos" paint stripper was fine on the wheels and the smokebox (probably because they're all cast), all they need now is a minor scraping, but it seems to have struggled elsewhere. I reckon I will have a crack at the rest with some nitromors, what do you guys reccomend ?
Once the boilers free of paint I shall give that a going over with 1500 grade and some ultra fine valve compound to flatten it off a little.
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Spokesmann
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Coming on well Jon, lookd forward to the finished engine.
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silverfoxsteam
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I've always used Nitromors but it always needs final cleaning by hand!
Looks like a really thorough job you're doing there Jon.
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JJ
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| silverfoxsteam wrote: | I've always used Nitromors but it always needs final cleaning by hand!
Looks like a really thorough job you're doing there Jon. |
Doing the job with 1500 grade wet and dry. It's taking a little longer but it's not as messy and at least it's tackling some surface imperfections as the boiler will remain bare.
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JJ
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Here are a few pics of todays efforts and some new goodies for my TE
I've done the boiler with 1500 grade wet and dry and wire wool, it's now finished.
The smokebox and chimney are currently in the process of drying as is the firebox
.......and my new goodies, a new extra power piston and boiler rivets
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Spokesmann
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THE GLARE! Looks immaculate Jon.
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silverfoxsteam
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This is going to be a stunner Jon.
What paint have you used?
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JJ
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| silverfoxsteam wrote: | This is going to be a stunner Jon.
What paint have you used? |
The engine frame is only wilkos quick dry gloss black. The firebox and smokestack are plastikote silk sheen high temp bbq paint.
The wheels are getting the gloss black treatment also along with a set of tyres that I have.
I would appreciate the input of forum members as to what finish to apply to the scuttle please as I am undecided.
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Spokesmann
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Gloss black would my choice Jon.
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JJ
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | Gloss black would my choice Jon. |
Gloss black is an option at the moment as I have some for the wheels.
Dare I suggest Ford Highland Green (the colour match near to the mamod stationary engine frames) or would that be considered vulgar?.
I don't want to end up with something that looks like one of Sandras efforts (Pimp my TE  ), I'm trying to create something more conservative and sympathetically individual.
I don't want it to look original either.
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silverfoxsteam
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D'yer know what - how about a nice crimson lake (a rich dark red) for the wheels and scuttle?
Whatever you choose Jon - make sure you bake it well to give it some heat resistance (particularly the scuttle).
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JJ
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| silverfoxsteam wrote: | D'yer know what - how about a nice crimson lake (a rich dark red) for the wheels and scuttle?
Whatever you choose Jon - make sure yopu bake it well to give it some heat resistance (particularly the scuttle). |
MMmmm, sounds nice. I shall see whats available Stephen.
Chris suggested " anything that doesn't clash with the decor at home"
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Spokesmann
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FHG would not be a good one in my view, just too bright almost a little insipid.
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JJ
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | FHG would not be a good one in my view, just too bright almost a little insipid. |
Point taken and happily noted, this is why the views of more senior and experienced members is greatly appreciated cos I don't want to be a steam Chav
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Spokesmann
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A green would be acceptable John, its just that on Mamods the minty green is used 'sparingly' so it works, its balanced by the red and black which are darker...
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JJ
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The job so far.............
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Spokesmann
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Looking very smart and crisp!
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Mamod Collector
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Lovely JJ
You have real nice paint finish
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John Chapman
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That's coming on a treat Jon.
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silverfoxsteam
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Loking very smart and a lot more sophisticated than the original!
I see you keep your spray cans the correct way up (down) for storage. (I learned that from this forum, did you too?)
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JJ
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| silverfoxsteam wrote: | Loking very smart and a lot more sophisticated than the original!
I see you keep your spray cans the correct way up (down) for storage. (I learned that from this forum, did you too?) |
Yes, I did pick that tip up on here Stephen.
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JJ
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Fitted the new Piston assembly today along with the crank and flywheel. I think the gloss black of the flywheel compliments a bare boiler, what do you Guys think ?
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Mamod Collector
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Cant fault it JJ, its a very good refurbishment
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JJ
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| Mamod Collector wrote: | | Cant fault it JJ, its a very good refurbishment |
Nearly done now, scuttle is now sprayed along with the front wheels, rear wheels need all the bits of paint that nitromors couldn't cope with just "Firkin Out" from the nooks and crannies, masking off, then spraying. Apart from the hubcaps thats all there is to do.
Keep you posted
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silverfoxsteam
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Going to be a good one!
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Spokesmann
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The whole ensemble looks very fetching Jon, how about a full side view?
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JJ
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Will drop a full side view on when we're all back together.
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JJ
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The Black enamel paint will "flatten" as it drys.....
as it has flattened quite well on these......
For all my bits that needed masking before spraying, I've used this stuff, it's plastic and sticky backed and it cuts cleanly unlike some masking tapes. It's used in the photographic industry for attaching to the leading edge of film rolls before they go through a minilab machine.
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silverfoxsteam
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Hey - that's 'Technotape', Wallace & Gromit use it don't they?
Seriously, good tip Jon, I hate masking tape, never seems to do the job properly and refuses to rip straight!
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JJ
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| silverfoxsteam wrote: | | Hey - that's 'Technotape', Wallace & Gromit use it don't they? |
Best leave yer tea Gromit old lad, run for it, we've been rumbled......
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Spokesmann
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and the cheese?
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Mamod Collector
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Ohhh that Tea looks nice JJ
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steamyjim
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WOW! Where did you get those cups from! I must have
Realy good job on the rebuild mate, real nice finish on all the parts
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JJ
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| steamyjim wrote: | WOW! Where did you get those cups from! I must have
Realy good job on the rebuild mate, real nice finish on all the parts |
I got the mugs on "Obey" . Have a look, there may be a set come up soon, they quite often do.
Thanks for the positives regarding the finish mate.
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JJ
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Finished now....................
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Spokesmann
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Classy! Nice rivetting! Is it going to have a canopy?
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JJ
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | Classy! Nice rivetting! Is it going to have a canopy? |
No canopy Mike, I think I prefer this one without
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Spokesmann
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| JJ wrote: | | Spokesmann wrote: | | Classy! Nice rivetting! Is it going to have a canopy? |
No canopy Mike, I think I prefer this one without |
The lean minimal look!
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Mamod Collector
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Very nice JJ
Even Mr Malins would be pleased
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John Chapman
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That's excellent Jon
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silverfoxsteam
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I knew It'd be good. It looks stunning Jon, you must be chuffed to bits after all the hard and fiddly work.
Tell you what, the tyres on the front wheels look the part! And the rear tyres are on the right way - well done (I must get round to putting mine right!).
Get yourself a brass Wilesco water cart to tow behind it.
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