Archive for Freesteam For collectors and enthusiasts of all steam engines          Freesteam Forum Index -> If it floats your boat! Phantom Six Lumps of Wood A Bowman Type hull should be easy to make.     Its only six pieces of wood.     If only I had known.   The following is the current state of play. Dont worry I wont bore everyone with the failures. Too many to show. The main instument of torture and cut fingers. A small bandsaw purchased from a well known supermarket. The first successfull test cut. There were several failures becouse of the blade wandering around everywhere except the line I wanted. I should admit that the timber is thicker than the stated maximum size for the saw.   Phantom Six Lumps of Wood This weekends progress. Five of the Six pieces of wood cut.   Mamod Collector Ohhh I like this, keep us posted Phantom   Spokesmann I shall watch this with interest. The way they are made circumvents the tricky process of gluing and pinning in the case of the Arrow design. Looking forward to the next installment. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood Sorry for the break. I was told I had to be sociable. Putting the bits of wood together with Eagle for comparison. Finaly. the six pieces of wood looking like a boat. I couldnt open up the band saw any further, so have used ply wood for the base. The hull isnt finished, but I couldnt resist seeing what the engine and boiler looked like with the hull.   Spokesmann That is looking stunning! When the top edges are chamfered it'll look even better. I always get told being on the net is unsociable! newts Great stuff Phantom I have the  same hull under construction, mines taken months to get that far   I've still not got the plywood for the bottom yet. I've been keeping my eye out for a cheap bandsaw via ebay, looking for something a little bigger than yours. I cut mine with a jigsaw & cleaned it up with a belt sander, initially i was making a former for steam bending but that's another story. If a 350 watt version cuts the softwood blanks ok, then i'll look for one of similar size as it be much cheaper? John Chapman Brilliant !!   I'm going to have to try this, (all I need is a bandsaw   ) Phantom Six Lumps of Wood I guess I shouldnt complain about the bandsaw.     It was very cheep and has managed to cut timber thicker than it is suposed too.     The cuts are my fault really, I shoulnt put my fingers in front of the blade.   Spokesmann Both exceedingly sturdy looking machines! silverfoxsteam This is all most impressive, gentlemen. MFSteam Thats good work guys, well done. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood Excellent latteral thinking to use a jig saw, Newts. Why didnt I think of that.     I have tried steaming and soaking timber in a jig, the results were inconsistent. O.K. They were crap.     Managed to get home from site early today so have cleaned it up and made the seventh and final wooden part. newts Ere, slow down a bit i'll never keep up now That is coming along very nicely I filled the pin holes ready for sanding a couple of months ago & that's it so far. The main problem with cutting 70mm of timber with a jigsaw, is that the cut wobbles in & out more than a fiddlers elbow. I'll certainly concur with the steam bending, very problematic If cutting from the 'solid' was good enough for GBJ then it's good enough for me Mamod Collector Thats excelent Phantom, you deserve a damn good pat on the back   Phantom Six Lumps of Wood I have still a long way to go making the rudder ect before I can fit the engine and boiler. Hopefully I can do them whilst the glue fully hardens. I have done a couple of drawings of Swallow and Snipes hulls. They are traditional pencil and paper, plan and side elevation. I have no way of copying them. They are A2 in size 3 pages in total scale 1:1 Is there anyone who can do this, so that members can have copies to make there own boats.? MFSteam Re: Six Lumps of Wood Phantom wrote: I have still a long way to go making the rudder ect before I can fit the engine and boiler. Hopefully I can do them whilst the glue fully hardens. I have done a couple of drawings of Swallow and Snipes hulls. They are traditional pencil and paper, plan and side elevation. I have no way of copying them. They are A2 in size 3 pages in total scale 1:1 Is there anyone who can do this, so that members can have copies to make there own boats.? Anyone helping with the copying? Spokesmann I can get access to a scanner for A2 maybe, I need to check with another dept in my organisation. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood There is nothing definately aranged at the moment. I am hopeful someone can get them copied.   MFSteam Is there a copy shop on your local high street? I'd be happy to cover any costs. John Chapman MFSteam wrote: Is there a copy shop on your local high street? I'd be happy to cover any costs. As indeed would I, I'd love a copy as well. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood Unfortunately or fortunately, depending on your point of view.   I live in a small town and we dont have a copy shop.   8_10 Brass Cleaner Phantom I need to sort a rudder etc for my Swallow Project. Fancy making two? Phantom Six Lumps of Wood This weekend the weather round here has been a bit of a washout.   This has alowed me to hide in the workshop though.   Quite a bit of progress has been made. Some of the parts that I hadnt made till now. The hull with mounting studs fitted along with rudder and prop assembley. I decided to use apoxy resin to bond these parts to the hull. The prop guard is a thicker guage of brass rod. I have done this becouse they seem to be easily damaged. Swallow and Eagles had to be silver soldered becouse they had snapped. Getting the parts ready for a final dry assembley. The pipework joining the engine to the boiler is also finished now. A few shots of it being assembled, to check everything lines up as it should. Everything seems to line up properly and the gears seem to be free to turn the prop. I have to admit to being very chuffed with everything so far.   newts Wow, very impressive   The hull & the engine, plenty to drool over. Mamod Collector You have too much talent Phantom, how did you bend the cowl it looks great   Phantom Six Lumps of Wood I bent the cowel gently over a piece of copper pipe. I still mess up with sheet metal work.   Look at the creases in the spray hood. Spokesmann I used an old cycle frame to form mine spray hoods, I rather like sheet metal work.... Scorpion2nz very interesting reading this thread . I have missed a bit lately as i have a project under way in the shed causing much anguish Mamod Collector Hmmm sounds interesting   Spokesmann Scorpion2nz wrote: very interesting reading this thread . I have missed a bit lately as i have a project under way in the shed causing much anguish No pain, no gain Dennis? Phantom Six Lumps of Wood I enjoy Doing sheet metal work.   Sometimes though it doesnt work out as good as I would like.   I keep bashing away though, in the hope it will.   Phantom Six Lumps of Wood This weeks progress. Started off by protecting the hull with several layers of thined poly' varnish and a littlle filler to smooth things over a bit. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood As the week progressed I started to apply the paint. At first I just did any areas I thought might give me problems. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood The final coats of paint being applied. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood Finally I took the masking tape off to reveal the hull painted, for the first time. Phantom Six Lumps of Wood The latest pics. Just a few tidying up jobs to do after this, as well as giving the paint chance to harden off. Hope you like it? John Chapman One word says it all - Fantastic   Spokesmann Superb work. Mamod Collector Beautiful absolutly Beautiful   newts Superb, i want one What paint colours did you use ? Phantom Six Lumps of Wood Thanks guys for your kind words and praise. If it wasnt for encouragement and help from you I wouldnt have even started. Everybody should be pleased with the result. I am.             Phantom Six Lumps of Wood The paint used was.... Wliko multi surface enamel (Antique White Gloss) Plasti-Kote Fast Dry Enamel (Gloss Black 101s) (Garden Green 104s) (Clear 119s) The varnish used to seal the timber was Rustins Poly mixed 50/50 with white spirit. P.S. Try not to paint out doors in the rain it spoils the finish.   Spokesmann Great thread and excellent advice. Spokesmann Phantom what sort of masking tape or sticky film di you use for the waterline? Ordinary stuff or very low tack? Phantom Six Lumps of Wood It was "duck" low tack tape.     The rest was masked off with paper. I also used the old trick of sticking it down on a dusty surface a couple of times, before sticking it down on the boat. Hope that helps.        Freesteam Forum Index -> If it floats your boat! Page 1 of 1