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Jay_Minor

liberty

i picked up this little baby today from a friend of mine
it has the CK Mark on the boiler made in Japan
so i assume it was another export to the Toy Crescent Company in the UK am i correct?

also what date is it?
and what would be the approx value?

it is in origional condition and works well Very Happy
Spokesmann

Charming, the lamp is in the style of Crescent.
Jay_Minor

Spokesmann wrote:
Charming, the lamp is in the style of Crescent.


yes Mike i'm 100% certain it is, i aslo have another crescent
John Chapman

That's a very nice, and very interesting, addition to the collection  Very Happy

However, I think that as it has the CK mark on the boiler it was probably originally sold under the C K Matsutoko name.
Jay_Minor

John Chapman wrote:
That's a very nice, and very interesting, addition to the collection  Very Happy

However, I think that as it has the CK mark on the boiler it was probably originally sold under the C K Matsutoko name.


correct John, but i think you will find it was they that supplied the Toy Crescent Company England
John Chapman

Jay_Minor wrote:
John Chapman wrote:
That's a very nice, and very interesting, addition to the collection  Very Happy

However, I think that as it has the CK mark on the boiler it was probably originally sold under the C K Matsutoko name.


correct John, but i think you will find it was they that supplied the Toy Crescent Company England


Indeed, it was Matsutoko who built the engines sold by Crescent Toys but they also sold a range of stationary engines, marine engines and steam boats under their own name.  As I understand it the Crescent engines were not marked "Made in Japan", mine certainly isn't.  The engines they sold under their own name were generally marked "Made in Japan" and had their trade mark which was CK in a diamond.
Jay_Minor

John Chapman wrote:
Jay_Minor wrote:
John Chapman wrote:
That's a very nice, and very interesting, addition to the collection  Very Happy

However, I think that as it has the CK mark on the boiler it was probably originally sold under the C K Matsutoko name.


correct John, but i think you will find it was they that supplied the Toy Crescent Company England


Indeed, it was Matsutoko who built the engines sold by Crescent Toys but they also sold a range of stationary engines, marine engines and steam boats under their own name.  As I understand it the Crescent engines were not marked "Made in Japan", mine certainly isn't.  The engines they sold under their own name were generally marked "Made in Japan" and had their trade mark which was CK in a diamond.


i see, so as it has the CK in diamond are we saying that it was sold by the Matsutoko company themselves and not sold by the crescent company then?
John Chapman

Jay_Minor wrote:
i see, so as it has the CK in diamond are we saying that it was sold by the Matsutoko company themselves and not sold by the crescent company then?


That is certainly the situation as I understand it Jay.
Mamod Collector

My little "Wonder steam engine" has the CK mark in the diamond
Its also marked Foreign on the boiler  Smile
Very nice boat Jay, your a lucky lad to own that one  Very Happy
silverfoxsteam

That's one hell of a find Jay. I'll bet there aren't many about - although I'm sure the toy steamboaties will be able to tell us more (when they read this).

The BIG problem is the burner - that filler/vent/handle - dangerous stuff! A thought has occurred to me though. Dream Steam do a small silicon rubber bung for the meths burner in a Mamod/MSS loco. This has a tiny vent hole and may fit the CK/Crescent handle, rendering it much safer to use. The item can be viewed here: http://www.dream-steam.com/upgrade_parts.html

A quick email to Dream Steam will establish the exact size I'm sure.

Back to the boat though - I'd be interesting to know how CK imported to the UK and other countries. Your boat may well have come via the States (with a name like that?). Crescent was a toy maker based in Cwmbran, South Wales and whist they may already have had a relationship with CK, their fling with toy steam was a short lived one as I understand it. Crescent had their own brand and it's unlikely that they would have sold other branded products alongside their own.

I reckon you've got a very rare item there Jay.
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