RSB
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Any Ideas
I purchased this about a month ago and after browsing the various websites i have yet to see anything exactly like it. It all seems original except the mamod safety valve.
So any ideas as to who the manufacturer is, and roughly the age? 
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Mamod Collector
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Thats a very distinctive engine, I,ll have a look through my referece material for you 
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silverfoxsteam
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Now that's a poser!
I'm going to hazard a guess at one of the obscure British makers.
It resembles the German candlestick engines from the turn of the 20th century but the cylinder in particular seems much more substanial, more in the way of British engineering. Furthermore, if the Mamod s/v fits, and fits properly without the threads having been modified, that would indicate British manufacture - fair to say?
Not sure about the chimney. Looks wrong somehow. A bit short and dumpy!
As for age - I'd go for 1900-1920, definately pre WW1. That's just an not-so-educated guess mind, I wouldn'tput money on it!
A nice item though - have you steamed it yet?
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RSB
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I should add that including the chimney the height is approx 8 1/2 inches.
I have steamed it once and it did work eventually after i dismantled it and gave everything a good clean and oil. The mamod safety valve fits perfect and the thread appears not to have been altered.
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RSB
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More UnknownsInstead of creating another thread i thought i would add to this one. Here are another two engines which i have had for some time, yet not to sure of their age or maker.
The first is a vertical engine, twin cylinder, however there is no firebox area. I have read that some early engines were built like this to run off of stoves etc. Is is home build?
The next engine says made in japan? Does it come from the same factory in which the Cresent steamers were made? Or is a Cresent engine?
Many Thanks
Rob
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Mamod Collector
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That CK engine is a real beauty Rob, it was made by C K Matsutoko of Japan around 1948
C K Matsutoko also made the Crescent branded engine the Crescent # 1 and # 2 and the Wonder steam engines
I would think that one you have is worth quite a bit of money Rob, its the first vertical boilerd one I've ever seen
I have a Crescent # 1 and a Wonder steam engine on my website if you not sure what they look like
Your a lucky boy Rob that is a real beauty
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RSB
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| Mamod Collector wrote: | That CK engine is a real beauty Rob, it was made by C K Matsutoko of Japan around 1948
C K Matsutoko also made the Crescent branded engine the Crescent # 1 and # 2 and the Wonder steam engines
I would think that one you have is worth quite a bit of money Rob, its the first vertical boilerd one I've ever seen
I have a Crescent # 1 and a Wonder steam engine on my website if you not sure what they look like
Your a lucky boy Rob that is a real beauty |
Many thanks for your reply, it was given to me a couple of years ago. The person that gave it to me said they had owned it for a number of years yet couldn't even remember buying it. I did try it once and went like the clappers. It was particularly filthy but i cleaned the brass and revarnished the wood.
Would anyone have any photos of them new?
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MFSteam
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There is a rather nice article on CK in this quarters Toy Steam News for those that aren't members best you sign up.
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RSB
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Just I thought i would ask again, does anybody know anything about the two cylinder vertical engine ?
Many Thanks
Rob
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Spokesmann
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Sorry I cant help, I was wondering if its John Chapman's area?
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silverfoxsteam
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Try sending John a pm Rob, just in case he's missed this post.
It's either a very early (1880ish) original or a later replica. Have you tried identifying the threads on any of the fittings? Imperial would mean British or American, metric probably German.
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John Chapman
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Rob, as already said the third one is a Matsutoko, the other two are more of a challenge! I will have a rummage through my copies of S.T.E.A.M. and see if they can throw any light on them.
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John Chapman
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Hi again Rob,
I've had a look through my references. With regard to the twin cylinder engine, there was a single cylinder engine a bit like it illustrated in S.T.E.A.M. Issues 40 and 41. It was suggested it might be French, which is a possibility for yours.
The vertical boiler one is more interesting, I had a suspicion, but wanted to check before sticking my neck out. Comparing your photo with a picture in S.T.E.A.M. I have I am now convinced that your engine is British made and was sold under the brand name “TESSTED” (that is not a typo, it was spelt with a double SS). It would date to around 1907 – 1914.
It is a gorgeous bit of kit and I love it.
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Spokesmann
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Great work John, thanks for taking the time cracking this.
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John Chapman
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| Spokesmann wrote: | | Great work John, thanks for taking the time cracking this. |
No problem Mike, always glad to help if I can.
Rob, just box up the TESSTED engine and pop it in the post to me, I can guarantee it a good home. 
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silverfoxsteam
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Detective Chapman on the job!
Do I get a brownie point for suggesting British for the candlestick? - If so I want visiting rights!
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RSB
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Many thanks John, Spokesman, Mamod Collector & Steve for taking the time to help me identify these engines, it just shows that this forum really is a good place to be.
When i purchased the Tessted it was on a stall with a Burnac Vulcan, and both were £65 each. Seeing as i had only popped into the swapmeet on the off chance i only had enough for one of them, and as i did not recognise the Tessted i thought it would be the best option, looks as though i made the right option.
I plan to subscribe to S.T.E.A.M, in the very near future, but does anyone have any back copies of the issues with these details, avalible which they could sell / copy for me so that i can add the details to my achieves?
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John Chapman
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| RSB wrote: | | When i purchased the Tessted it was on a stall with a Burnac Vulcan, and both were £65 each. Seeing as i had only popped into the swapmeet on the off chance i only had enough for one of them, and as i did not recognise the Tessted i thought it would be the best option, looks as though i made the right option. |
Indeed so, compared to the TESSTED Burnac's are relatively common 
I've dug out some more information on the subject. - The engines were made by "James Bedington and Son", who traded under the name of "The Birminingham Model Engineering Co." They were precision engineers and started manufacuring toys around 1880. Most of their steam engines were manufacted for companies such as Clyde Model Dockyard and Bassett-Lowke and sold under their names. They started selling engines under their own TESSTED brand in 1907, production ending some time around 1914.
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MFSteam
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Yet Again more evidence that STEAM is worth the £15, come on guys you really do need to sign up.
I have one of the verticals, I got it at STIA last year. A certain well known collector who regularly writes in STEAM identified it for me. He confirmed it was a Beddington Lydiatt of around 1910.
I believe there is some connection with this firm and the makers of the original Meccano Engine.
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Spokesmann
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| MFSteam wrote: | Yet Again more evidence that STEAM is worth the £15, come on guys you really do need to sign up.
I have one of the verticals, I got it at STIA last year. A certain well known collector who regularly writes in STEAM identified it for me. He confirmed it was a Beddington Lydiatt of around 1910.
I believe there is some connection with this firm and the makers of the original Meccano Engine. |
You are right, still not done it 
i could write loads for that mag....
Memo to ones self I must register..... 
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John Chapman
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| MFSteam wrote: | | Yet Again more evidence that STEAM is worth the £15, come on guys you really do need to sign up. |
I couldn't agree more Ian.
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