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steamyjim
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 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:17 pm Post subject: What would you pay for this? |
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Looking for some advice, my grandad and I built this a while ago. I got much more pleasure from building it and getting it working than I did running it. It takes up a lot of room and is a bugger to transport.
I would also like to purchase the materials for a large scale traction engine, so I was wondering if anyone was interested in it and if so what they would pay for it?
I just want to say, it is NOT for sale at the moment. I just want to get an idea of what its worth.
Overall view
Water tower
Generators
Control panel
Fan
Condensing stack
Power plant-a Wilesco D20 engine
Engine...again
Pump-with handle on
Pump-with handle off
Condense container
Gas tank I intend to fit
Gas burner I intend to finish and fit
Here is some information about it...
The base
The base is made from about 1/2" MDF (sold in metrick) then extra sections of the same MDF are mounted underneath to make it stand above the ground. Sprayed titanium
The engine
The engine is a Wilesco D20. I stripped it down,removed the paint. Resprayed it-heat resistant for firebox and section of base underneath firebox. The rest of the base is gloss black. Flywheel and engine sub base hand painted.
Water tower
Gas tank from blow torch. Top cut out. Hole drilled in bottom with a machine peice of brass in it. The brass is fitted onto a peiceof copper tube. A second hole is drilled to the side and a fitting is soldered in. The copper pipe fits over a stand bolted to the base. Sprayed black. Inside grey
Water pump and stand
The water pump i had in the workshop. Mounted on a base of alluminum. Sprayed black.
Generators
The generators are made from 2 Meccano 3V motors. Mounted on a alluminium base. 2 bits of plastic tube connected the 2 with a shaft and pulley in between. Sprayed all over black. Alluminium base mounted onto another mini MDF base (sprayed titanium) with holes slotted in to enable adjustment.
Lamps
The lamps are made from copper tube bent with a washer soldered in the end containing a LED. Then soldered to a base that is bolted (removable though) to the MDF generator base. Lamps sprayed all over black.
Condensing stack
2 bits of steel from a bathroom handle thing splied togethor.Copper pipe soldered into it to take the exhaust in. Brass top on top. Fitted into a machined brass stand/tank. Tank has a valve on it to enable any condense to run out through a pipe
Control panel
2 bits of U alluminium section with holes drilled and milled to fit switches and meters in. 2 straicht sections of alluminium bolted to the side to hold it together.
Fan
Alluminium machined to a taper. Hole drilled down middle (to fit wire) Motor mounted on top with fan. Thread in bottom of alluminium bolted to base. Motor sprayed black
Wiring
All wiring is underneath base
Heres a diagram
Oil can
Scutliffe oil can sprayed black
Condense pot
Cashew nut tin. Sprayed black. Inside sprayed grey
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Spokesmann
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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Somewhere between 250-300 would seem appropriate Jim, its hard as its a custom job, and that means it appeals to people in different ways.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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It is nice Jim, but from what I have seen on ebay, stuff like this rarely brings much more than the actual value of the engine.
They are worth much more to the person that built them (sentimental value) than what they are worth to a new owner.
If you want to raise money, maybe you'd be better off selling some of your collection (like your more common engines) and hanging on to this one. |
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steamyjim
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Nick wrote: | It is nice Jim, but from what I have seen on ebay, stuff like this rarely brings much more than the actual value of the engine.
They are worth much more to the person that built them (sentimental value) than what they are worth to a new owner.
If you want to raise money, maybe you'd be better off selling some of your collection (like your more common engines) and hanging on to this one. |
I see what you mean, I haven't realy been watching the moded engines on Ebay. It was just the Mamod ploughing engine TE that went quite high on yabe so was wondering about this 
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There are a few mods that bring lots if there are 2 people very interested in it. But most modded TE's I have seen don't bring much more than the value of the parts that were added (look at some of Sandra's engines, not sure how she came out ahead on those).
You could always put it on ebay with a high reserve and see if anyone's interested. |
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I think I would have to agree with Nick on this one Jim
Its a big lump and postage would be a killer
I would sugest taking it along to STIA with a for sale sign on it
To get its true value, you would need to stick it on ebay with a high reserve
And the highest bid would be its market value, hope this helps Jim
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| Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Take it to Exeter if you've not left already!
It's a great piece of kit Jim, but the value's going to all about finding the right buyer and negotiating, therefore eBay may not be the best place. The forums and exhibitions are a good start.
Let the 'other' lot know (I don't believe I said that!  )
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Did you ever make a video of it running Jim, if not can you do one before you sell it 
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